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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197705780" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197705780">(May 15 2020 at 15:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> ... step one would be to create a hackmd or something and brainstorm a bit the questions you want to ask (or maybe information you want to gather)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197706071" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197706071">(May 15 2020 at 15:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can work together on this <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> (well, in case you plan to work on this <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span> )</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197706250" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197706250">(May 15 2020 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thanks, that would be great!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197706274" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197706274">(May 15 2020 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Let me make a hackmd</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197706427" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197706427">(May 15 2020 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> I think my main doubt would be how are we going to spread the word about this?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197706452" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197706452">(May 15 2020 at 15:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess: zulip topic, twitter, URLO, IRLO ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197706489" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197706489">(May 15 2020 at 15:13)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://hackmd.io/@ux-jKBcgRTSHsH042VF3BA/By-u-V39U/edit">https://hackmd.io/@ux-jKBcgRTSHsH042VF3BA/By-u-V39U/edit</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197706507" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197706507">(May 15 2020 at 15:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yep, I had the same question</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197706624" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197706624">(May 15 2020 at 15:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>gonna write something quick and dirty there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197706626" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197706626">(May 15 2020 at 15:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also, to be clear, we are targetting developers who are new or left, right? So should we actively discourage responses by current devs?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197706635" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197706635">(May 15 2020 at 15:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>probably badly written but as a way to start</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197706942" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197706942">(May 15 2020 at 15:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>wrote some stuff there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197706992" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197706992">(May 15 2020 at 15:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>let's start by getting it written</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197706993" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197706993">(May 15 2020 at 15:16)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> feel free to remove things but for sure please write them in english :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707010" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707010">(May 15 2020 at 15:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it should be fairly short</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707016" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707016">(May 15 2020 at 15:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wrote that in pseudo english</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707029" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707029">(May 15 2020 at 15:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>a few questions, 2 or 3 probably</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707051" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707051">(May 15 2020 at 15:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>the next step would be a google form</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707126" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707126">(May 15 2020 at 15:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>for broadcasting, I would probalby post it </p>
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<li>inside rust blog post</li>
<li>internals post</li>
<li>tweet about it and have rust-lang retweet it </li>
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<p>something like that?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707138" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707138">(May 15 2020 at 15:17)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> check the hackmd, I wrote like 5 questions, maybe we can condense them in some way</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707192" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707192">(May 15 2020 at 15:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah sorry ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707227" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707227">(May 15 2020 at 15:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Should we make some of them a multiple choice? to make people think a bit more deeply about what they disliked</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707231" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707231">(May 15 2020 at 15:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707263" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707263">(May 15 2020 at 15:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197707192">said</a>:</p>
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<p>ah sorry ;)</p>
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<p>oh no worries <span aria-label="heart" class="emoji emoji-2764" role="img" title="heart">:heart:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707303" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707303">(May 15 2020 at 15:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197707227">said</a>:</p>
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<p>Should we make some of them a multiple choice? to make people think a bit more deeply about what they disliked</p>
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<p>probably :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707327" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707327">(May 15 2020 at 15:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah those questions seem great</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707347" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707347">(May 15 2020 at 15:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wuold probably make opton 4 and 5 multiple choice</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707367" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707367">(May 15 2020 at 15:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess we want to know if they've tried to contribute, when and what, and if it was great or not and why</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707378" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707378">(May 15 2020 at 15:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think the first question is smart, because we'll prob get a bunch of random folks who never did nothing :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707389" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707389">(May 15 2020 at 15:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>might be good to ask instead</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707393" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707393">(May 15 2020 at 15:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>how long have you been contributing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707507" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707507">(May 15 2020 at 15:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>with a few choices</p>
<ul>
<li>never </li>
<li>working on my first PR (or started a PR but never finished)</li>
<li>occasional PRs</li>
<li>regular and frequent contributor</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707511" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707511">(May 15 2020 at 15:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>something like that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707540" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707540">(May 15 2020 at 15:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, we need to clearly know what they've tried to do and for how long</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707584" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707584">(May 15 2020 at 15:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>mind if I edit?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707602" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707602">(May 15 2020 at 15:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>Please go ahead</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707609" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707609">(May 15 2020 at 15:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>sure, please go ahead</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707694" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707694">(May 15 2020 at 15:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>burn what I've done because it's a bit bad :), I've tried to be the ICE-Breaker :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707826" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707826">(May 15 2020 at 15:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>not sure about</p>
<blockquote>
<ul>
<li>Have you stopped contributing to Rust? why?</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707833" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707833">(May 15 2020 at 15:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I might just cut that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707850" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707850">(May 15 2020 at 15:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>it seems like the next question ("what were major  pain points") is more important</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707858" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707858">(May 15 2020 at 15:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>and perhaps the same thing anyway</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707867" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707867">(May 15 2020 at 15:22)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707876" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707876">(May 15 2020 at 15:22)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>* working on my first PR (or started a PR but never finished)</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707879" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707879">(May 15 2020 at 15:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>we could ask "Are you still contributing to rust" as a yes/no question I guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707906" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707906">(May 15 2020 at 15:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>which might be interesting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707911" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707911">(May 15 2020 at 15:22)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197707876">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><code>* working on my first PR (or started a PR but never finished)</code></p>
</blockquote>
<p>about this, may be good to split into two</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707919" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707919">(May 15 2020 at 15:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>or hmmm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707944" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707944">(May 15 2020 at 15:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I fear that people try to contribute in some way but are unable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197707959" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197707959">(May 15 2020 at 15:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>so that case doesn't fit never</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708003" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708003">(May 15 2020 at 15:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>How about "never, but I want to"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708008" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708008">(May 15 2020 at 15:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>but unsure if it's exactly this one or we can be more explicit</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708056" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708056">(May 15 2020 at 15:23)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li>never</li>
<li>never, but I would like to</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708149" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708149">(May 15 2020 at 15:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>let me explain what I'm thinking ... so ... I think an important aspect to identify is people that wanted to contribute and tried in some way to do so but were not able for X reason</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708162" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708162">(May 15 2020 at 15:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we shouldn't even talk about PR</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708169" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708169">(May 15 2020 at 15:24)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Are you still contributing to Rust?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>What's the difference between "yes" and "Sometimes"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708171" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708171">(May 15 2020 at 15:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708191" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708191">(May 15 2020 at 15:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>depending how advanced we want to go</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708197" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708197">(May 15 2020 at 15:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>we could branch a bit</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708206" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708206">(May 15 2020 at 15:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e., ask somewhat diferent questions for folks who never contributed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708218" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708218">(May 15 2020 at 15:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g., "if not, why not?" or something like that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708365" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708365">(May 15 2020 at 15:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>what I was suggesting is maybe change <code>working on my first PR (or started a PR but never finished)</code> to <code>have tried to contribute but was not able</code> or something like that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708502" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708502">(May 15 2020 at 15:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>you could be Niko Matsakis and started your first PR and never finish because you've stopped caring or don't have time :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708546" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708546">(May 15 2020 at 15:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708553" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708553">(May 15 2020 at 15:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>I tried phrasing that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708585" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708585">(May 15 2020 at 15:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>there's a few different things it might mean, depending on how you phrase it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708593" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708593">(May 15 2020 at 15:27)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197708191">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>depending how advanced we want to go</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I think it would be good to tease out what difference we can. I especially think that people who tried to contribute and never finished will be many</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708607" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708607">(May 15 2020 at 15:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708653" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708653">(May 15 2020 at 15:27)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197708585">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>there's a few different things it might mean, depending on how you phrase it</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yeah what I've said is still not good for what I want to identify</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708696" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708696">(May 15 2020 at 15:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>take a look</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708708" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708708">(May 15 2020 at 15:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>let me see</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708783" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708783">(May 15 2020 at 15:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm, so, let me explain but I may be wrong :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708833" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708833">(May 15 2020 at 15:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it's important to identify people that tried but were not able because they lack knowledge, guidance, etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708861" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708861">(May 15 2020 at 15:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I think identifying those 100% clear is important</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708865" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708865">(May 15 2020 at 15:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Did survey overview meeting happened yet? Can’t find the stream</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708885" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708885">(May 15 2020 at 15:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes</p>



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<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="123586">@nagisa</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708923" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708923">(May 15 2020 at 15:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197708861">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>so I think identifying those 100% clear is important</p>
</blockquote>
<p>to me those cases are going to answer <code>I started a PR but I never finished it, or it never landed</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708954" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708954">(May 15 2020 at 15:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>note the new stream</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197708958" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197708958">(May 15 2020 at 15:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>but also an extremely experienced compiler hacker could answer that, because they don't have time or willing to continue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709049" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709049">(May 15 2020 at 15:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>welp, that was a bad time to start using a new stream for the topic <span aria-label="frown" class="emoji emoji-1f641" role="img" title="frown">:frown:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709151" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709151">(May 15 2020 at 15:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I believe they started using it yesterday (or tried)...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709176" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709176">(May 15 2020 at 15:31)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197708958">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>but also an extremely experienced compiler hacker could answer that, because they don't have time or willing to continue</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I guess something like <code>tried to contribute but wasn't able because of lack of knowledge/guidance</code></p>



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<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> <span aria-label="point up" class="emoji emoji-1f446" role="img" title="point up">:point_up:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709346" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709346">(May 15 2020 at 15:32)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> ok -- though I wonder if folks might've been turned away for other reasons they might not check it</p>



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<p>e.g., maybe because build times</p>



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<p>or because somebody was a jerk to them</p>



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<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> Perhaps we can focus the first question more on frequency and let the last question answer why?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709373" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709373">(May 15 2020 at 15:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>right</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709379" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709379">(May 15 2020 at 15:32)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197709358">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>or because somebody was a jerk to them</p>
</blockquote>
<p>exactly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709397" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709397">(May 15 2020 at 15:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>"tried to contribute but never finished" seems good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709400" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709400">(May 15 2020 at 15:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it's better to provide more options that consider all that stuff</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709462" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709462">(May 15 2020 at 15:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also "occasional prs" feels like &gt; 1</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709465" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709465">(May 15 2020 at 15:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>agreed with you guys</p>



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<p>we could also change it to</p>



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<p>a tree</p>



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<p>and have something like</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709537" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709537">(May 15 2020 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>"have you ever contributed?</p>
<ul>
<li>No</li>
<li>I tried, but didn't complete</li>
<li>Yes"</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709543" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709543">(May 15 2020 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>if they say "Yes" then we ask "how often"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709554" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709554">(May 15 2020 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>1 PR, a few PRs, many PRs</p>



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<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709572" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709572">(May 15 2020 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's better</p>



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<p>similarly we can ask "are you still contributing"</p>



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<p>(only if they say Yes)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709607" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709607">(May 15 2020 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<p>(and if they say No, we can ask more about why)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709636" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709636">(May 15 2020 at 15:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>this is getting fancy :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709648" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709648">(May 15 2020 at 15:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>lol</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709661" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709661">(May 15 2020 at 15:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>side note that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709679" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709679">(May 15 2020 at 15:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>we should move this survey and the one that <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> made into some "group folder"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709688" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709688">(May 15 2020 at 15:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>so we can redo them regularly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709808" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709808">(May 15 2020 at 15:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>ps, do we want to clarify "have you ever contributed code" or something?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709838" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709838">(May 15 2020 at 15:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>not sure how to phrase it, but I feel like we are not taking about organizing meetups here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709845" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709845">(May 15 2020 at 15:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>even though I consider that contributing :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709880" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709880">(May 15 2020 at 15:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>we could just say "ever landed a PR against a rust-lang repository"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197709891" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197709891">(May 15 2020 at 15:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>or someting very concrete</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710038" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710038">(May 15 2020 at 15:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>we also need to be better up front about deciding (and stating) how survey results will be shared</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710176" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710176">(May 15 2020 at 15:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think in this case we will share summary data but not the individual responses</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710216" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710216">(May 15 2020 at 15:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah maybe we should define better what do we want to know</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710241" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710241">(May 15 2020 at 15:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>and we would quote free text responses unless they seem personal or people ask us not to</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710255" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710255">(May 15 2020 at 15:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>(we could include a specific question about "can we quote?" with a default of yes)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710393" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710393">(May 15 2020 at 15:40)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197710216">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>yeah maybe we should define better what do we want to know</p>
</blockquote>
<p>there's a lot of ways of contributing but what are we trying to review</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710473" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710473">(May 15 2020 at 15:40)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="123586">nagisa</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197709049">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>welp, that was a bad time to start using a new stream for the topic :(</p>
</blockquote>
<p>(sorry about that, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="123586">@nagisa</span> . I should have posted a forwarding-pointer in #t-compiler )</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710478" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710478">(May 15 2020 at 15:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>also I could add some formatting to docs and a period or run <code>ispell</code> on docs and that would be contributing to <code>rust-lang/rust</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710511" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710511">(May 15 2020 at 15:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I think this time we are talking about code to the compiler or stdlib, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710543" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710543">(May 15 2020 at 15:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>if so maybe we should clearly say, have you contributed with code to rustc or rust stdlib?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710572" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710572">(May 15 2020 at 15:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am debating about whether e.g. contributing to chalk counts</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710589" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710589">(May 15 2020 at 15:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>I thnk we should include it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710603" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710603">(May 15 2020 at 15:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710608" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710608">(May 15 2020 at 15:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>but we should ask about it in the "what did you contribute to"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710679" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710679">(May 15 2020 at 15:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>or that, yeah, maybe leave it open and ask what did you contribute to</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710686" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710686">(May 15 2020 at 15:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>agree</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710736" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710736">(May 15 2020 at 15:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>there are also tools</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710746" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710746">(May 15 2020 at 15:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>we should ping the dev-tools team :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710785" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710785">(May 15 2020 at 15:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>cc <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="132040">@Manish Goregaokar</span> and <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="117482">@Pascal</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710816" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710816">(May 15 2020 at 15:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>I imagine that will just mean growing the list of "what did you contribute to" a bit</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197710841" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197710841">(May 15 2020 at 15:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>but the rest stays largely the same? I don't want the survey to get too unfocused</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197711491" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197711491">(May 15 2020 at 15:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>Do we want to include crates in the rust ecosystem that are not under the purview of rust-lang?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197711551" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197711551">(May 15 2020 at 15:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think so</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197711563" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197711563">(May 15 2020 at 15:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>also what is "other external rust-lang crates"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197711600" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197711600">(May 15 2020 at 15:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>not sure :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197711603" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197711603">(May 15 2020 at 15:48)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>I don't think so</p>
</blockquote>
<p>regex? git2?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197711657" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197711657">(May 15 2020 at 15:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh, didn't know those were under rust-lang</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197711661" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197711661">(May 15 2020 at 15:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>nvm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197711866" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197711866">(May 15 2020 at 15:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>perhaps we can merge "other crates" and "other external rust-lang crates" into "other rust-lang crates"?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197712159" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197712159">(May 15 2020 at 15:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>or even just make this:</p>
<ul>
<li>libc, regex, git2-rs, or other libaries in the rust-lang org</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197712173" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197712173">(May 15 2020 at 15:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>and just have an "other" option</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197712248" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197712248">(May 15 2020 at 15:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems right</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197712285" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197712285">(May 15 2020 at 15:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure if it's worth breaking out all the different tools</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197712350" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197712350">(May 15 2020 at 15:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I worry that when lists get too long people bail from surveys :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197712465" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197712465">(May 15 2020 at 15:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>sounds good</p>



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<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197712499" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197712499">(May 15 2020 at 15:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh I wanted to mention that distinguishing</p>
<p>"Whats did you contribute to"</p>
<p>and </p>
<p>"What parts did you <em>try</em> to continute to"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197712507" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197712507">(May 15 2020 at 15:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>is probably not worth the effort</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197712530" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197712530">(May 15 2020 at 15:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e., we can just phrase it as</p>
<p>What did you contribute to or try to contribute to?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197712546" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197712546">(May 15 2020 at 15:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>and then we don't have to sync two lists and also merge two sets of data</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197717304" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197717304">(May 15 2020 at 16:31)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> I made some minor updates to consolidate some branches of the tree. I also added a few more possible pain points (I'm not sure how long this list should be)...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197717333" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197717333">(May 15 2020 at 16:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>If it looks good, I can try to whip up a google form</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197718119" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197718119">(May 15 2020 at 16:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>checking it ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197718444" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197718444">(May 15 2020 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>- Negative contributor experience (see below)</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197718493" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197718493">(May 15 2020 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>the below part is missing, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197718570" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197718570">(May 15 2020 at 16:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>ahh I see</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197718601" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197718601">(May 15 2020 at 16:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>it ties with <code>What did you find were the main pain points? Check all that apply. </code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197718654" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197718654">(May 15 2020 at 16:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we can write ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197718683" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197718683">(May 15 2020 at 16:39)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>- Negative contributor experience (see What did you find were the main pain points? question)</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197718695" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197718695">(May 15 2020 at 16:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>or something like that to be more concrete</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197718828" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Lew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197718828">(May 15 2020 at 16:40)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>A few PRs</code> / <code>Many PRs / regularly</code>, if i'm answering this survey(maybe i will), it's not very clear to me how many should be counted as the boundary between "a few" and "many" lol.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197718885" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197718885">(May 15 2020 at 16:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes, I was wondering about that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197718891" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197718891">(May 15 2020 at 16:40)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197718683">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><code>- Negative contributor experience (see What did you find were the main pain points? question)</code></p>
</blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> you edited it beautifully <span aria-label="heart" class="emoji emoji-2764" role="img" title="heart">:heart:</span>, I wasn't liking what I've said :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197718944" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197718944">(May 15 2020 at 16:41)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>- What did you find were the main pain points? Check all that apply. </code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197718980" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197718980">(May 15 2020 at 16:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd also add something that goes like, because it's hard and I couldn't understand anything :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197718986" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197718986">(May 15 2020 at 16:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>or something like that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197719069" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197719069">(May 15 2020 at 16:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe an option that says too hard/complex</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197719105" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197719105">(May 15 2020 at 16:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can also encourage to provide some specific stuff in the free text</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197719165" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197719165">(May 15 2020 at 16:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>like asking ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197719231" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197719231">(May 15 2020 at 16:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>Is there something else you would like us to know? (you can elaborate more on your answers about Negative contributor experience)</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197719313" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197719313">(May 15 2020 at 16:44)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116458">Charles Lew</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197718828">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><code>A few PRs</code> / <code>Many PRs / regularly</code>, if i'm answering this survey(maybe i will), it's not very clear to me how many should be counted as the boundary between "a few" and "many" lol.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>How about if we change this to a frequency question:</p>
<p>How often do you contribute to ...?</p>
<ul>
<li>One PR per year</li>
<li>One PR per month</li>
<li>One PR per week</li>
<li>Multiple PRs per week</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197719379" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Lew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197719379">(May 15 2020 at 16:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>Maybe i'll write "building stage0 and stage1 and wait for more than half an hour just to bless a test case output is exhausting" in the free text area :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197719666" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197719666">(May 15 2020 at 16:47)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197719069">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>maybe an option that says too hard/complex</p>
</blockquote>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span><code>* lack of documentation
* wasn&#39;t able to get my technical questions answered
</code></pre></div>


<p>These were intended to break down why it's too hard/complex</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197719738" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197719738">(May 15 2020 at 16:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>Though I think I see your point</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197719852" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197719852">(May 15 2020 at 16:48)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116458">Charles Lew</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197719379">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Maybe i'll write "building stage0 and stage1 and wait for more than half an hour just to bless a test case output is exhausting" in the free text area :)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Do you feel that "    * build/test times (not llvm) take too long" doesn't cover this concern?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197719892" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197719892">(May 15 2020 at 16:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>(also, please do write such things, as that's very helpful)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197720120" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Lew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197720120">(May 15 2020 at 16:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well, kind of, but if i made significant changes to the compiler, i think i deserve the waiting, but if i'm waiting just because a tiny change or fmt or something, it's a little... disappointing? i don't know...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197720494" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197720494">(May 15 2020 at 16:52)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116458">@Charles Lew</span> I added "* frustrating to rebuild after small or trivial changes". Does that seem better?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197720509" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Lew <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197720509">(May 15 2020 at 16:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes, indeed, thanks!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197723671" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197723671">(May 15 2020 at 17:17)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> Here is a draft: <a href="https://forms.gle/fRTqisBVY5hHXUaf8">https://forms.gle/fRTqisBVY5hHXUaf8</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197723733" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197723733">(May 15 2020 at 17:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>can you share edit permissons?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197723829" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197723829">(May 15 2020 at 17:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh, yeah, I just realized I posted the consumer version</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197723844" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197723844">(May 15 2020 at 17:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>can you PM me an email address?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197724420" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197724420">(May 15 2020 at 17:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>(btw, for passers-by, please don't submit responses yet, unless you are helping to test things)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197728198" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197728198">(May 15 2020 at 17:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>if I answer no to the first question the next question I see is <code>What parts of Rust did you contribute to or try to contribute to? (check all that apply) *</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197728235" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197728235">(May 15 2020 at 17:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess that question should be asked if you say not but I did try to contribute, no?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197728330" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197728330">(May 15 2020 at 17:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess if you answer just plain no, I'm not sure what else to ask ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197728462" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197728462">(May 15 2020 at 17:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>well I guess we want the questions we are seeing but maybe they should read a bit differently</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197728489" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197728489">(May 15 2020 at 17:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>like If you were to contribute, what you would like to contribute to?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197728552" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197728552">(May 15 2020 at 17:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure if we can change titles in google form depending on what was answered in the first question</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197728600" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197728600">(May 15 2020 at 17:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>so we can have this <code>What parts of Rust did you contribute to or try to contribute to? (check all that apply)</code> but asked different, depending on what was answered</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197728635" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197728635">(May 15 2020 at 17:55)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> do what I'm saying make sense to you?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197730260" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Dylan MacKenzie (ecstatic-morse) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197730260">(May 15 2020 at 18:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> have you considered asking what resources (e.g. <code>CONTRIBUTING.md</code>, <code>rustc-dev-guide</code>, discord, etc.) people used to learn how to contribute?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197730610" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Dylan MacKenzie (ecstatic-morse) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197730610">(May 15 2020 at 18:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think we would benefit from a more "walkthrough" style <code>CONTRIBUTING.md</code>. Maybe even split into different documents; one for writing documentation, one for filing bugs, one for libs changes, etc. Like, the "writing documentation" takes quite a bit of scrolling to get through ATM. We would link to these from the dev guide to reduce duplication of effort.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197730863" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Dylan MacKenzie (ecstatic-morse) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197730863">(May 15 2020 at 18:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it's beneficial to separate the dev guide, which contains all the information you need to understand the compiler, from the steps needed to make simple changes, since I expect some people that just want the second feel overwhelmed by the first.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197730984" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Dylan MacKenzie (ecstatic-morse) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197730984">(May 15 2020 at 18:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I could be wrong about this, though. The survey question I proposed would help decide.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197731559" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197731559">(May 15 2020 at 18:17)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> That's doable (and we are already doing it a bit). Mainly it wasn't clear if it was worth the effort to change the wording but then have to keep the options in sync.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197731605" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197731605">(May 15 2020 at 18:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>One thing is that if you answer "no" to the first question, it might make sense to just ask "is there something else..."</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197731729" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197731729">(May 15 2020 at 18:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>didn't get what you meant</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197731838" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197731838">(May 15 2020 at 18:19)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="118594">ecstatic-morse</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197730863">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I think it's beneficial to separate the dev guide, which contains all the information you need to understand the compiler, from the steps needed to make simple changes, since I expect some people that just want the second feel overwhelmed by the first.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>This is actually something we are working on as a wg these days... so that's good feedback to hear</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197731924" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197731924">(May 15 2020 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="118594">ecstatic-morse</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197730260">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Hey <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> have you considered asking what resources (e.g. <code>CONTRIBUTING.md</code>, <code>rustc-dev-guide</code>, discord, etc.) people used to learn how to contribute?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Hmmm... I like this idea.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197732016" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197732016">(May 15 2020 at 18:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> I meant that if you answer "no" then you just skip to the end of the survey and all you see is "is there something else you want to tell us" and that's it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197732441" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197732441">(May 15 2020 at 18:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah thought about that but it may be weird</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197732514" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197732514">(May 15 2020 at 18:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think asking those questions but written them a bit differently would be better</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197732640" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197732640">(May 15 2020 at 18:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>mainly to not make it read like "did you contribute to rust?" -&gt; "No" ... "What did you contribute to?" :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197732678" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197732678">(May 15 2020 at 18:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, I see what you mean</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197732712" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197732712">(May 15 2020 at 18:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>what's why I've said, maybe asking If you were to contribute, what would you contribute to?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197732795" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197732795">(May 15 2020 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also, the phrasing of the first question makes it seem like you should answer "no" if you are currently just learning</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197732802" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197732802">(May 15 2020 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>and then what do you feel would be your main challenges to do so?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197732808" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197732808">(May 15 2020 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>something like that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197732809" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197732809">(May 15 2020 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>which might discourage some responses</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197732831" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197732831">(May 15 2020 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197732961" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197732961">(May 15 2020 at 18:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I would like to try to avoid duplicating parts of the form (for the sake of time/maintenance)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197732987" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197732987">(May 15 2020 at 18:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we can find a satisfactory way of wording things, that is</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197733090" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197733090">(May 15 2020 at 18:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>What if we said something like "What parts of Rust are you most interested in contributing to/have you contributed to?"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197733193" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197733193">(May 15 2020 at 18:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>And "What did you find were the main pain points or barriers?"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197736222" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197736222">(May 15 2020 at 18:53)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> I rearranged some things a bit:</p>
<ul>
<li>If you answer "no" in the first question, it goes directly to the last form section asking about barriers/points/etc</li>
<li>If you answer that you would "like to contribute" or "tried, but never finished" it goes to the 3rd section that asks what part of the project you want to contribute to. After that, you go to the section about pain points/etc</li>
<li>If you answer "yes", it asks the questions about frequency, etc and what parts you have contributed to. Then, you go to the section about pain points.</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197736251" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197736251">(May 15 2020 at 18:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>Let me know what you think!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197744948" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197744948">(May 15 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> I've add some short text in the hackmd that we could use as an inside rust blog post to announce it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197745895" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197745895">(May 15 2020 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>let me read it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197746485" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197746485">(May 15 2020 at 20:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>left two comments but I may not be the best on how to correctly phrase this :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197746523" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197746523">(May 15 2020 at 20:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I would change <code>are not paid</code> to <code>are volunteers</code>.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197746529" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197746529">(May 15 2020 at 20:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>and</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197746549" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197746549">(May 15 2020 at 20:09)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>those who have not yet made contributions</code> to <code>those who want to contribute but were not able to do it yet</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197754668" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197754668">(May 15 2020 at 21:28)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> sorry I was busy with some things, what's the status now?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197755526" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197755526">(May 15 2020 at 21:38)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> I'd say if you want give it a last check to the survey (<a href="https://forms.gle/fRTqisBVY5hHXUaf8">https://forms.gle/fRTqisBVY5hHXUaf8</a>), do all the possible flows and check the message that Mark wrote (<a href="https://hackmd.io/uNiFtiwkQJ-cMkGcFypGFw?view#Inside-Rust-Blog-post">https://hackmd.io/uNiFtiwkQJ-cMkGcFypGFw?view#Inside-Rust-Blog-post</a>) to spread the word about this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197757197" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197757197">(May 15 2020 at 21:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, I took a shot at writing my own draft post -- <a href="https://hackmd.io/uNiFtiwkQJ-cMkGcFypGFw?both#Inside-Rust-Blog-post-Niko%E2%80%99s-draft">see this section</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197761194" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197761194">(May 15 2020 at 22:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>I like Niko's version best</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197773405" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197773405">(May 16 2020 at 03:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>looks good to me too <span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197784369" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Félix Fischer <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197784369">(May 16 2020 at 08:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey I love this initiative. <br>
I think that all my pain points were among the options, so I feel that you guys have done a good job enumerating those things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197784377" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Félix Fischer <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197784377">(May 16 2020 at 08:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also, and this is not related to the content of the form... yo, that font is pretty. The presentation in general is. Kudos to whoever did the styling. I think it looks real good <span aria-label="heart" class="emoji emoji-2764" role="img" title="heart">:heart:</span>️</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197815044" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197815044">(May 16 2020 at 21:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>Haha, I can't claim credit for that... Thank Google, I guess :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197877908" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197877908">(May 18 2020 at 00:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>Do you think "How often have you contributed?" should be "What was the frequency of contribution when you were actively contributing?" or something? I always find these questions weird for projects I used to be super active on and am not anymore, and we ask about current activity as well so we can be clearer here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197877956" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197877956">(May 18 2020 at 00:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>perhaps keep the heading with a subheading "if no longer active, use your rough level of activity when you were active"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197878012" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197878012">(May 18 2020 at 00:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>For "What parts of Rust are you interested in contributing to? (check all that apply)", should that section instead be "What parts of Rust that you have not yet contributed to are you interested in contributing to?" Or is it really "are interested in contributing to "</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197878019" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197878019">(May 18 2020 at 00:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>as in, are we trying to find things people want to work on but haven't yet for whatever reason, or just gauge interest</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197878049" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197878049">(May 18 2020 at 00:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>"What did you find were the main pain points or barriers to contributing? (check all that apply)" perhaps should not be a mandatory question?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197878059" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197878059">(May 18 2020 at 00:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>most of these probably shouldn't, but this is a leading question so absolutely should not be :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197969094" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197969094">(May 18 2020 at 17:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hmm... I will have to chew on that. Our goal was to capture both what people have worked on and didn't like and what people have not worked on because they ran into/are running into some roadblock.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197969644" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197969644">(May 18 2020 at 17:35)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="132040">Manish Goregaokar</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197877956">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>perhaps keep the heading with a subheading "if no longer active, use your rough level of activity when you were active"</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Done.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197970226" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197970226">(May 18 2020 at 17:37)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="132040">Manish Goregaokar</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197878012">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>For "What parts of Rust are you interested in contributing to? (check all that apply)", should that section instead be "What parts of Rust that you have not yet contributed to are you interested in contributing to?" Or is it really "are interested in contributing to "</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I guess, since this question only appears to people who have stated that they are interesting/trying to contribute but have not yet, they are the same question, no? I guess I'm not quite seeing the nuance you are pointing at.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197970601" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197970601">(May 18 2020 at 17:39)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="132040">Manish Goregaokar</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197878059">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>most of these probably shouldn't, but this is a leading question so absolutely should not be :)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>could you elaborate more? One would think it was the opposite. Also, my experience in the past with surveys is that if you make everything optional, people simply don't answer them.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197970648" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197970648">(May 18 2020 at 17:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>Getting a lot of sparse responses is not helpful</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197974110" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197974110">(May 18 2020 at 18:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I think <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="257516">@Carol (Nichols || Goulding)</span> left some comments too)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197990980" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197990980">(May 18 2020 at 20:25)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> Where? Could you point me to them, please?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197991663" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197991663">(May 18 2020 at 20:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh, I see. There are edits in the hackmd</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197991852" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197991852">(May 18 2020 at 20:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ah, the hackmd is also not synced with the google form, where I had made some other edits</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197991864" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197991864">(May 18 2020 at 20:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>Let me sync them now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197993411" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197993411">(May 18 2020 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ok, I have updated the hackmd. Let's make that the canonical version of the survey until things settle</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197993617" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197993617">(May 18 2020 at 20:48)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="257516">@Carol (Nichols || Goulding)</span> and <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="132040">@Manish Goregaokar</span> Sorry, could you take another look? I didn't realize y'all were looking at the hackmd.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197993647" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197993647">(May 18 2020 at 20:49)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197993411">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Ok, I have updated the hackmd. Let's make that the canonical version of the survey until things settle</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Yes, or beware of the merge conflicts <span aria-label="big smile" class="emoji emoji-1f604" role="img" title="big smile">:big_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197993704" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197993704">(May 18 2020 at 20:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>Some more specific things:</p>
<ul>
<li>What questions should we ask people who have only opened issues? I feel like most of the questions don't make sense for them</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197993761" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197993761">(May 18 2020 at 20:49)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197970226">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I guess, since this question only appears to people who have stated that they are interesting/trying to contribute but have not yet, they are the same question, no? I guess I'm not quite seeing the nuance you are pointing at.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>oh, missed that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197993920" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197993920">(May 18 2020 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li><code>Have you ever had any Pull Requests (PRs) merged in any [rust-lang repositories][rust-lang-org]?</code>: There was some discussion above in the thread about this question. In particular, Santiago and I felt that it didn't make sense to have a "no" option (as in, "no, and I don't want to") because why you be answering the survey? I guess that kind of changes if we have the question about opening issues. Any thoughts on what "No" should mean? Should we have this option at all?</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197993979" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Manish Goregaokar <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197993979">(May 18 2020 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197970601">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="132040">Manish Goregaokar</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197878059">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>most of these probably shouldn't, but this is a leading question so absolutely should not be :)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>could you elaborate more? One would think it was the opposite. Also, my experience in the past with surveys is that if you make everything optional, people simply don't answer them.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>What should someone who has not had any trouble contributing do here?</p>
<p>My experience with the Rust survey is the opposite. People are happy to share stuff, otherwise they wouldn't be filling in the survey at all. Most things should be optional so people who don't feel like they have a concrete answer don't have to pick something at random</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197994030" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197994030">(May 18 2020 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="132040">@Manish Goregaokar</span> Yeah, I think I was looking at the google form and you were looking at the hackmd which was not synced. Sorry about the confusion</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197994116" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197994116">(May 18 2020 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ah, I see what you mean</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197994195" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197994195">(May 18 2020 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess that possibility didn't occur to me. In my mind, I assumed that everyone has encountered something on that list...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197994311" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197994311">(May 18 2020 at 20:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess I will trust your experience more than mine. Possibly it is just a difference of audiences</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197994542" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197994542">(May 18 2020 at 20:56)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="257516">@Carol (Nichols || Goulding)</span> I am curious what you see as the difference between "people were unfriendly" and "I felt unwelcome"? Perhaps we can sharpen them a bit more so that we know what people mean when they check either box.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197994691" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197994691">(May 18 2020 at 20:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>One last thing:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Only members of the Compiler Team (and other teams?) will be able to view the full results</p>
</blockquote>
<p>This is a good question. I assumed that I would help, but I'm not formally on the compiler team (though I am a WG colead). Are there any preferences here?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197998718" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197998718">(May 18 2020 at 21:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hmm, I don't think we need to narrow it that way</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/197998793" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#197998793">(May 18 2020 at 21:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>I would say "only team members or people specifically helping administer the survey" or something</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198192185" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Carol (Nichols || Goulding) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198192185">(May 20 2020 at 12:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/197994542">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="257516">Carol (Nichols || Goulding)</span> I am curious what you see as the difference between "people were unfriendly" and "I felt unwelcome"? Perhaps we can sharpen them a bit more so that we know what people mean when they check either box.</p>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198192190" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Carol (Nichols || Goulding) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198192190">(May 20 2020 at 12:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>ugh</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198192202" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Carol (Nichols || Goulding) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198192202">(May 20 2020 at 12:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>sorry I suck at zulip</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198192263" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Carol (Nichols || Goulding) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198192263">(May 20 2020 at 12:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>I saw "I felt unwelcome" as something that might not involve other people at all</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198192298" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Carol (Nichols || Goulding) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198192298">(May 20 2020 at 12:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>like "i felt like the contributor docs weren't written for someone at my skill level, so I must not be welcome here"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198192348" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Carol (Nichols || Goulding) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198192348">(May 20 2020 at 12:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>or "I saw other people having a heated discussion, so I didn't feel welcome to jump in"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198192381" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Carol (Nichols || Goulding) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198192381">(May 20 2020 at 12:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure how to clarify :-/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198192547" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Carol (Nichols || Goulding) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198192547">(May 20 2020 at 12:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>I also added the "issue" question because I see opening and triaging issues as contributing to the compiler, not sure if yinz agree for the purposes of this survey</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198192663" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Carol (Nichols || Goulding) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198192663">(May 20 2020 at 12:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>I mostly don't want this survey posted around and people to comment on twitter or whatever saying "ugh the Rust folks don't see other kinds of contribution as valid"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198193073" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198193073">(May 20 2020 at 12:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>I would say yes, we are interested in opening and triaging issues, but it may not be the best fit for <em>this</em> survey -- they feel like pretty different tasks to me, needing a different set of questions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198196894" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Carol (Nichols || Goulding) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198196894">(May 20 2020 at 13:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>Maybe just add a paragraph to the blog post and/or the intro of the google form saying "we value many different kinds of contributions, but this survey's purpose is to identify and eliminate barriers to entry for code contributions" and then leave out the issue question</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198216147" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198216147">(May 20 2020 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>I like that suggestion</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198216173" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198216173">(May 20 2020 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>I do want to be sure we don't give people the wrong impression on this point.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198249338" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198249338">(May 20 2020 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="257516">Carol (Nichols || Goulding)</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/198192202">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>sorry I suck at zulip</p>
</blockquote>
<p>you will get better over time and love it :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198249417" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198249417">(May 20 2020 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/198216173">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I do want to be sure we don't give people the wrong impression on this point.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>completely agree <span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span> on Carol suggestion too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198378802" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198378802">(May 21 2020 at 21:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/198249338">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="257516">Carol (Nichols || Goulding)</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/198192202">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>sorry I suck at zulip</p>
</blockquote>
<p>you will get better over time and love it :)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Hehe, you will get better at it... but _love it_? Not sure about that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198378916" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198378916">(May 21 2020 at 21:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thanks for the comments! That makes sense. I had also wondered about that with regards to e.g. organizing meetups, answering stackoverflow, etc. too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198378923" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198378923">(May 21 2020 at 21:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me loves it :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198379203" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198379203">(May 21 2020 at 21:22)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="257516">Carol (Nichols || Goulding)</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/198192263">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I saw "I felt unwelcome" as something that might not involve other people at all</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Hmm... Would you say that "I didn't feel comfortable contributing to code or discussions" is more precise?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198379597" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198379597">(May 21 2020 at 21:27)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116122">simulacrum</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/198378923">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>/me loves it :)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>me too, from all the chat systems I've used this is by far the one that allows you to better follow discussions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198380344" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198380344">(May 21 2020 at 21:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ok, I have updated the hackmd</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198380379" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198380379">(May 21 2020 at 21:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>It looks good to me. Shall we <span aria-label="ship" class="emoji emoji-1f6a2" role="img" title="ship">:ship:</span> it? (Btw, I still like Niko's blog post best)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198386100" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198386100">(May 21 2020 at 22:35)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> <span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span> agree with you, let's wait for Niko but I think this can be shipped with Niko's post</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198434844" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Carol (Nichols || Goulding) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198434844">(May 22 2020 at 12:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/198379203">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="257516">Carol (Nichols || Goulding)</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey/near/198192263">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I saw "I felt unwelcome" as something that might not involve other people at all</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Hmm... Would you say that "I didn't feel comfortable contributing to code or discussions" is more precise?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Yes, that sounds much better!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198442675" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198442675">(May 22 2020 at 13:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK -- I think we should kick this off</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198442712" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198442712">(May 22 2020 at 13:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>Is there some final version to give a "final look over"?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198502874" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198502874">(May 22 2020 at 22:39)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> Let me update the actual form and get back to you</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198504274" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198504274">(May 22 2020 at 22:58)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> Done. The google form is up to date</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198504295" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198504295">(May 22 2020 at 22:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think I got everything (but please let me know if I missed someone's changes)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198504332" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198504332">(May 22 2020 at 22:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also, I dropped a few links because google forms doesn't seem to support them (i.e. I just left the text)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198593259" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198593259">(May 24 2020 at 18:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> Oh, one other thing: Should we add a para to the end of the blog post like "Please respond by &lt;DATE&gt;"?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198798548" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198798548">(May 26 2020 at 18:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> oh yes definitely :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198806810" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198806810">(May 26 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> Cool, I think this is ready. Does it make sense to make the deadline one month from the release of the survey?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198806860" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198806860">(May 26 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm, either that or maybe 2 weeks or something</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198806887" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198806887">(May 26 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I would guess we'll have a bunch of people fill out pretty quickly and then almost none :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198808531" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198808531">(May 26 2020 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>I imagine we can also act on the output to some extent before the deadline, too, so I wouldn't worry too much about even necessarily setting one</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198808630" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198808630">(May 26 2020 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>(beyond setting expectations for when we'll stop checking)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198810883" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198810883">(May 26 2020 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ok, I just opened <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/blog.rust-lang.org/pull/601">https://github.com/rust-lang/blog.rust-lang.org/pull/601</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198810926" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198810926">(May 26 2020 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>The survey form should be closed to submissions atm, so we should reopen it when ready</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198811003" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198811003">(May 26 2020 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>And thanks to everyone on this thread that gave very helpful feedback on the form!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198844352" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198844352">(May 27 2020 at 02:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>looks good!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198910720" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Carol (Nichols || Goulding) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198910720">(May 27 2020 at 15:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm going to mute t-compiler again, please @ me if you'd like me to see stuff! &lt;3</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198948531" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198948531">(May 27 2020 at 20:28)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> Should we merge it and open the form? What's next?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198948547" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198948547">(May 27 2020 at 20:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yep let's do it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198948555" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198948555">(May 27 2020 at 20:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>want me to merge now?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198948989" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198948989">(May 27 2020 at 20:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sure, is there a reason not to?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198949138" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198949138">(May 27 2020 at 20:32)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> I just unlocked the survey, I think we can merge now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198949450" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198949450">(May 27 2020 at 20:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't see a rason not to</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198949456" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198949456">(May 27 2020 at 20:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>merging now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198949488" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198949488">(May 27 2020 at 20:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thanks <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> for pushing on this!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198949551" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198949551">(May 27 2020 at 20:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>My pleasure :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198949596" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198949596">(May 27 2020 at 20:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>Should we also announce on internals?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198950025" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198950025">(May 27 2020 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>sounds good to me!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198950088" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198950088">(May 27 2020 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>live <a href="https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2020/05/27/contributor-survey.html">https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2020/05/27/contributor-survey.html</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198950098" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198950098">(May 27 2020 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>the title looks a bit funny though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198950110" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198950110">(May 27 2020 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yep, was just about to type that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198950129" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198950129">(May 27 2020 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>also "the compiler team on behalf of the compiler team"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198950162" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198950162">(May 27 2020 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>Not sure what I did wrong, though... I copy/pasted from another entry</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198950256" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198950256">(May 27 2020 at 20:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>usually you put your name there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198950290" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198950290">(May 27 2020 at 20:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>it probably looked funny on the other entry too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198950296" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198950296">(May 27 2020 at 20:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ah, my fork is out of date and the metadata format has changed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198950375" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198950375">(May 27 2020 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>if you want to post a PR with some</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198950392" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198950392">(May 27 2020 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>quick tweaks, let me know</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198950907" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198950907">(May 27 2020 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>Filled out the form and advertised the post on <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/grrybp/contributor_survey_inside_rust_blog/">Reddit</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198950953" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198950953">(May 27 2020 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>That was fast</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198950981" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198950981">(May 27 2020 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> I filed <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/blog.rust-lang.org/pull/602">https://github.com/rust-lang/blog.rust-lang.org/pull/602</a> to fix the metadata</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198950985" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198950985">(May 27 2020 at 20:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hehe, I was watching</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198951028" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198951028">(May 27 2020 at 20:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>merged</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198954848" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198954848">(May 27 2020 at 21:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Minor typo in the survey: "libaries".</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198954878" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198954878">(May 27 2020 at 21:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>Is that fixable at this point?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198955406" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198955406">(May 27 2020 at 21:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198955878" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198955878">(May 27 2020 at 21:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Unfortunately, fixing it will make our lives a bit more difficult later, as google forms will consider it to be a different response</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198955911" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198955911">(May 27 2020 at 21:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>I would prefer to leave it as-is</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198956527" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198956527">(May 27 2020 at 21:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>have we tweeted about this?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198956570" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198956570">(May 27 2020 at 21:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>I see Niko did and rust account RTed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198956572" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198956572">(May 27 2020 at 21:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>cool</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198956607" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198956607">(May 27 2020 at 21:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>Cool, I was just about to ask (I'm not on twitter)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198958413" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Félix Fischer <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198958413">(May 27 2020 at 21:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yo, I just saw the final survey</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198958422" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Félix Fischer <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198958422">(May 27 2020 at 21:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>That was a damn fine job</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198958437" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Félix Fischer <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198958437">(May 27 2020 at 21:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I really liked it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor%20survey/near/198958443" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Félix Fischer <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/contributor.20survey.html#198958443">(May 27 2020 at 21:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>:)</p>



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